There is a difference between Hunger and Appetite.

Hunger is the "body's call for nourishment".

Appetite is the "desire for gratification of some want, craving, or passion; therefore appetite is eating and drinking for relaxation and pleasure.

But...of course...Cravings and Urges don't ONLY originate in the Body. Some, due to conditioning, originate in the Mind.

The craving for Alcohol by an Alcoholic seems to have a physical element, and these cravings are reduced and even disappear via abstinence. Low-Carbers believe that cravings for carbs--especially refined sugars and starches
have a physical element, and that these cravings are reduced and even disappear via carb-restriction.

 The Low-Carb position is: Insulin is what drives physical Hunger. A reduction of carbohydrates is a reduction of insulin. Therefore, reducing carbs...and thereby reducing insulin... will reduce the physical craving for excess food.

Research studies have proven that the Human body will SURVIVE and THRIVE without carbohydrates. While the Body can USE Carbohydrates, it does not NEED them.

Furthermore, Low-carb eating is only a reduction, not a total elimination, of carbs.  Almost every low-carb plan includes green leafy vegetables, and other low-starch vegetables like green beans, broccoli, cauliflower, cucumbers...and father along, nuts and berries etc., all of which have carbs.

Even those hard-core, zero-carb people get a few carbs from their eggs, cheese, yogurt, trace amounts of onion, garlic and spices for seasoning.

I find it interesting to note that studies clearly show that meat and other animal products contain,
every single vitamin and mineral...except for vitamin C, and in much larger amounts than what is found in fruits and vegetables.

These studies also indicate that eating a high amount of sugar and starch actually DEPLETES the body's vitamin and mineral supply. and that this process actually causes the body to need more of them, including vitamin C.

For example--the famous scurvy that English seamen got which was remedied by eating lemons ..citrus fruit..., only happened to those whose diets were Very High Carb, while the seamen who ate higher protein with few carbs did not suffer from scurvy.

So WHY aren't these dietary facts commonly known and understood? I think this becomes very clear when we are wise enough to..
FOLLOW THE MONEY.  

By the Way, while thinking about APPETITE,you might want to check out my new video Six Cereal, Bars, and Nuts which is posted in the TIDBITS section of  RECEIPES.
 

                                    
Due to the information contained in Gary Taubes’
'Why We Get Fat And What To Do About It',
in January I began a low-carb eating experiment-of one.

I followed that plan through January, then went back to normal eating during a vacation week early in February.  Immediately after that vacation, I began low-carb eating again.On 3/20/11, Sunday,  I completed another 6 consecutive weeks.I'm calling my Plan VLC-2011 (for very-low-carb, year 2011).

My plan is to do my best to maintain the same eating Habits that I've previously established, including tracking all my food in my DietPower food journal, while working toward keeping my net carbs at, or less than, 30 per day, and my daily calorie average similar to my past year's amount.

This is not a plan I can recommend to anyone.  I don't even know how it will work in my own body.
I'd like to do this experiment for a 6 month period, but if my weight climbs...or there are other unforeseen side-effects, I will terminate it early.

Years ago, my DietPower journal became an enjoyable Habit for me, and it easily tracks my carbs, fats, proteins and calories etc. I also log in my daily scale weight and DietPower graphs it for me, which enables me see whether my weight is trending up or down over time.

So....
Thus far, I am still enjoying the novelty of eating this low-carb way. I'm not following a specific low-carb plan. like Atkins or Protein Power etc., I'm just working to restrict my carbohydrate intake, and trying to keep my protein and fat intake around the same number of grams.This results in my fat Ratio percentage being about twice my protein Ratio percentage, because protein is 4 calories a gram and fat is 9 calories a gram.

Allegedly, my minimum protein requirement is between 20 grams (WHO) and 36 grams (US RDA).  I usually take in between 50 and 100 grams.

I am aware of the Atkins "carb ladder", which puts foods in about 10 categories, but I am choosing not to follow it, rung by rung etc. The current Theory is that each of our bodies is different in the way it tolerates carbs, and that some people need more restrictions than others. I found it Interesting that Sugar and Refined Grains are NOT on the ladder at all... meaning they are off-limits to everyone, always.
Makes sense to me.

I have been avoiding sugar and refined starch, and I have also been mostly successful at avoiding complex carbs
including whole grains, dry cooked beans, and starchy veggies like corn, potatoes etc,  because these have a really high carb count....  AND I've found that eating a small amount of them causes me to crave much more of them, plus it seems to start up a craving in me for foods with sugar and refined starch as well.

I found that after the first week, my cravings for sugar and starchy foods were greatly reduced. Although they still exist, they are not as severe. Right now, they are sort of an occasional thought..."um, that would taste good"...
instead of an incessant yammer..."GET ME THAT". I still want the carby substance, but mostly I don't feel like I HAVE to have it. which is a change.

 My morning weight is mostly staying inside the 115 - 116 lb range. This is good.
It is also somewhat different, because on a "normal-balanced" diet, my morning weight bounces around a great deal from day to day, and my norm is to easily bounce within a 5 to 8 lb range during any one month.

I have many different measures of Success in this Low-Carb Experiment.  However, Failure would be an upward weight-trend,
and/or Hunger and Cravings greater than I experience while eating a "normal-balanced" diet.

So....in that I am not currently experiencing Failure...thus far, it is a Success.
My quote for today is:

"A person who never made a mistake
never tried anything new."
.........................              Albert Einstein

There are people who think Portion Control is bad because it requires them to limit the amounts they eat.  Good or Bad, in most cases, is simply a Value Judgment. I like something...It's Good. I hate something...It's Bad.

And, we can always find reasons to justify all of our Value Judgments.  Many Facts of Life are not Good or Bad. They Just Are. They Exist.

By definition, an Obese person takes in More food intake than that person's body requires to maintain a Normal weight.
The Reason this happens is really still unknown. although Taubes presents a good argument in support of his Theory. See his book, "Why We Get Fat" being discussed here in BOOKTALK.

Some people say the Cause is physiological.. that Obesity is due to a Genetic dysfunction, or a "raised set point", or some other unknown physical factor, an obese person's appetite control system doesn't operate properly. Specifically, that person has a body with a defective fat regulation system, and one symptom of this condition is physical hunger for more food than the body requires.

Some people say the Cause is psychological...that Obesity is due to Gluttony and Sloth.. and that this behavior can come from ignorance, or from Cultural influence, or from some unknown deeply emotional Dysfunction.

Whether Obesity has a physiological or psychological cause..... the only way a person who is Obese can become normal weight is tosomehow manage to Eat Less.

The term "Portion Control" is simply a shortcut way to define the process of "consciously and actively monitoring the Amount of one's Food Intake"

The Obese person's Body does not want to eat less. ...(Usually, the Obese person's Mind doesn't want to do it either.)....

Eating whatever food substance one wishes to eat.... in an amount that will satisfy an Obese person's physical and emotional appetites.... won’t result in that Obese person becoming, or maintaining, a normal weight.

It's just a Fact.

Call it Good. Call it Bad. It is just a Truth of Life.

I find that in order to find satisfaction and peace in Life, I must reach the point of Acceptance of these, sometimes unpleasant, Truths. Once I Accept a Truth, I can choose how I'm going to deal with it.  But Denial of Life's Truth...and rationalizing it away from my consciousness... takes away my Freedom to control and change my behaviors in response to that Truth.

To reach peace of mind while refusing to Accept Life's Truth requires me to mentally Distort that Truth via rationalization. Holding on to a Distorted belief, or perspective, about the way an Obese body functions, can certainly keep an Obese person fat.

Portion Control...which is defined above...involves self-denial.
It requires one to deny one's Obese, or Reduced Obese, Body the Amount of food it requires for complete satisfaction.  It takes much Effort. It is work.

If I'm blind because I've lost my eyes,  but choose to believe they'll regrow themselves soon, I probably won't do the work it takes to learn Braille.

If I believe that somehow, through some magical process, I can give my Obese or Reduced obese Body all types of food, in the amounts that it takes for that Body to always register Satisfaction, I'm not going to do the work it takes to control the amount of food I eat in order to reduce my Obese body, or keep my Reduced Obese body a normal weight.
However, I am going to be working.Because it is going to take a great deal of Mental Work to find some way to sustain my irrational belief system which every day must face the Reality of Life's Truth.

                             
    As part of my dieting hobby, I visit many different online forums, and I sometimes receive inspiration from posts written by other forum members who are dealing with the same issues that I deal with.

While Blogging here, I will sometimes quote some or all of a post by another. In doing this, my intention is to give appropriate credit to the authors of copyrighted articles, while protecting the anonymity of other sources quoted.

I agree with this thoughtful post from a fellow forum member and think that it deserves special attention here.

 QUOTE:

Every Bite Counts.
I had a huge light bulb moment last night as I was reading about "cheat days," which is what some people call it when you plan a day to go off your eating plan and eat whatever you want.

The theory is that if you PLAN a day like that every so often, it makes it easier to stay on plan the rest of the time. Whenever you are craving something, you just tell yourself that you can have it on your cheat day, but you have to wait until then to have it.

The problem is that for some people (like me), a cheat day turns into a cheat week or a cheat month and it's really hard to get back on track. Or if you have problems with bingeing, it isn't any hardship to ingest upwards of 4 or 5 thousand calories on a cheat day (yes I have done that), and it really messes up all your hard work you did eating right all week.

Anyway, it hit me.
Every bite counts.
EVERY.

Now, maybe this sounds obvious, but how many times have I gotten up, started a healthy eating day, and then at lunch "slipped up" and had pizza? Then I would tell myself, "oh well, I ruined my day, so I may as well have candy bars and burgers and fries for dinner and start over fresh tomorrow." Isn't that something a LOT of people are in the habit of doing?

We look at our eating aka "diet" in terms of a UNIT.

One good day  (eating the right number of points or calories or whatever your plan is) is a Unit of Success,

and a Bad Day (eating over your limit, not counting calories, eating junk) is a Unit of Failure.

Sometimes we even try to string days together, as in "I will start on Monday" or the first of the month
or after Christmas or whatever, which is an excuse to eat badly and not count anything until we "start again" on that special date.

WHO came up with this idea???
Why is a "DAY" the unit of success or failure??

Who decided that if you eat badly for lunch, you can just eat whatever you want for the rest of the day and start over in the morning? It's as if we think that "one bad day" is a single unit of failure, whether we ate 2000 or 5000 calories, that it's the same because it is just ONE bad day. It makes no sense!!

EVERY BITE COUNTS, whether you eat a Hershey bar on a "bad" day because you are bingeing or eat it on a "good" day and add it into your calorie count, it is STILL 210 calories going into your body. You HAVE to stop looking at it as good and bad days.
It is your LIFE.

What I mean is this. Say you are aiming to eat 1500 calories per day to lose weight (substitute WW points or whatever other unit or plan you are using). Now, say your week looks like this:

Monday: 1500
Tuesday: 1470
Wednesday: 1460
Thursday: 1520
Friday: 1460
Saturday: 3200
Sunday: 2900

You slipped up on Saturday and told yourself you would start over on Monday. You had only 2 bad days. But now you have eaten 13,510 calories for the week which averages out to 1910 per day... way over your limit. And you wonder why you haven't lost weight.

Because every bite counts, and the unit is not a day, or even a week.
It is a lifetime.

When you eat something you shouldn't have, it's over. Stop, and eat right from that very moment on. Have a healthy dinner. Keep going. A bad meal is way better than a whole bad weekend.

You want a cheat day?
Every bite you take counts, because it still goes into your body, counted or not. Every bite either helps you get closer to your goal or slows you down from reaching it.

So the question becomes, how badly do you want it? Do you want to lose weight more than you want that cookie? Then put it down.

Every time you eat something unhealthy or go over your calorie limit, you are effectively putting a speed bump... or even a roadblock... in between you and your goal.  Every bite you take determines whether you will reach your goal weight in 6 months, 12 months, 3 years, or never.
What do you REALLY want?

The following video, "So You Want To Lose Weight?"is an amusing depiction of a conversation between a Dietitian and an Client seeking weight-loss advice.

It contains the obvious message, which is intended, which is that people don't want to do the work of changing the way the eat and exercise, and expect weight-loss Results without making an Effort to change that Behavior

together with a totally unintended additional message.

This video contains an excellent example of how the Health Care Industry continues to distribute erroneous information about low-carbohydrate eating which is based on "bad Science", and which has now been refuted. 

Which part of the conventional wisdom provided by the Dietitian is incorrect? The statement that the Atkins diet (low-carb eating) causes kidney damage in healthy people has definitely been proven to be wrong. 

How about the rest?  What is true? and What is untrue? I don't really know for sure. 
You'll need to judge that for yourself.

For more information on the low-carb issue, review the discussionof "Why We Get Fat" by Gary Taubes located at BOOKTALK, and if you feel like making some comments in that discussion, please do so.